Main Threads:Laptop won't boot after full disk image restore
  • Are you saying that there's no way to make a disc image from a drive that's outside the computer?  Can't drives be cloned from USB?
  • Okay, with this information in mind, I went looking for an earlier disk image backup and found one from November.  I restored that--and it worked!  I have successfully returned my laptop to its state as of a few months ago, and I then restored all missing data by copying with File Explorer from the more recent backup.  (Plus Dropbox, etc.) 

    So... I wish I had known about this limitation before beating my head for two days. :)

    But now I am back up and running!  Thanks to all who took time to help.

  • So a Disk backup made from a HDD with an OS on it, attached through USB, cannot boot after this backup is restored? I did not know that and I was surprised reading this. A Disk backup should be a Disk backup isn't it?

    So I tested this.

    I took an old HDD with Win8.1-X86 on it, connected with a USB cable to a PC and made a Disk backup. I Cleaned that HDD with Diskpart and Restored the backup I just made.

    Inserted that HDD in the original laptop, booted and I got errors that it couldn't boot. Just like JeffC. I was stunned. I think everyone expects that this backup should boot when restored. It's a Disk backup!

    There should be a warning in Aomei when making a Disk backup of a USB connected Disk. Something like: "Attention, you cannot boot from this Disk backup when restored..."

    Then I tried to repair this non booting HDD with the Win8.1 installation DVD, Boot repair. That did not work. Neither with a Win10 DVD. 

    Next I installed Win8.1 again from the Installation DVD. This one booted of course and I got a working System partition and a fresh C: partition.

    Then I restored only the C: partition from the backup overwriting the fresh installed C: partition. The result was a new System partition and the old C: partition.

    And that combination booted just fine. So this could be a workaround for people experiencing boot problems.

    Again Admin: there should be a warning. "Attention, you cannot boot from this Disk backup when restored..."

  • @JohnnyboyGo  Thank you for the suggestion, I'll submit it to our development department.

  • I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestion. 

    Re JohnnyboyGo's last method of restoring just the C: partition onto a working system, I thought about that, but worried that there might be a conflict between the system as of (for example) November, and whatever system files are on the C: drive in February.  IOW, would there be conflicts having to do with Windows updates between the two? 

  • @JeffC. I don't think there will be a conflict. AFAIK the Windows OS is concentrated in the C: partition, the System is only there for booting or additional manufacturers software outside the OS. I often restore a C: partition (from a system or disk backup) onto a system that already has a working OS, and put the restore on een D: or E: partition, making a multi boot system by adding the restored OS with EasyBCD to the bootmenu. Always worked fine.

  • These are my thoughts. They are not facts. It seems to me that the backup process isn't just backing up the disk but also the hardware configuration and environment it sits in. i.e. The motherboard, graphics card etc. So if the HDD is sitting in a caddy when the backup is done then that environment is nothing like the same as it being installed in the computer. When trying to restore to the disk when installed in the computer the restore process looks for the correct environment (the caddy) and, when it doesn't match, the restore operation fails. What think you?

  • @wiganken

    the hardware configuration and environment it sits in. i.e. The motherboard, graphics card etc.

    These things are all present in the OS partition (C:) of the HDD. If you connect a HDD through USB nothing changes in the content of the HDD.

    If you insert the HDD in another computer, these settings are set again or reinstalled again. In most cases (maybe always) the HDD will boot just fine as long as GPT/MBR is the same and CPU-bits are compatible.

    I have not tested yet, but there is also a Clone option in Aomei. I hope that a Disk Clone from USB1 to USB2 is an exact copy and will boot....

    @Admin, tell me, will such a clone work?

  • Theoretically it will work, but you might encounter the driver issue(BSOD).

    It is recommended to use the Backup and Restore, and remember to enable the Universal Restore.

  • I just tested it:

    A 2,5" laptop HDD with Win8.1 on it connected to USB1

    A 3,5" desktop HDD unallocated connected to USB2

    Aomei 4.0.6 on Windows 10 FCU managing the USB ports

    Cloned the entire disk from USB1 to USB2

    Inserted the 3,5" HDD in a Desktop computer.

    It booted just fine into Win8.1. Of course since the hardware has changed, Windows performed some settings, but that is a one time only operation of about 5 minutes.

    So why is it that a clone from USB1 to USB2 does work but a backup on USB1 and followed by a restore on USB1 not?

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